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Are the airlines bending EU travel rules?
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Joe Curry
2011-01-30 10:36:37 UTC
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Source: http://www.independent.co.uk

Simon Calder

..... had the reassurance that he would receive board and lodging
until the next Bmibaby flight to East Midlands, three days later....

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http://www.independent.co.uk/travel/news-and-advice/simon-calder-offside-are-the-airlines-bending-eu-travel-rules-2197342.html
dagspot
2011-01-30 12:11:35 UTC
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Simon Calder
..... had the reassurance that he would receive board and lodging
until the next Bmibaby flight to East Midlands, three days later....
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http://www.independent.co.uk/travel/news-and-advice/simon-calder-offs...
Hold me back....
tim....
2011-01-30 12:57:15 UTC
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Source:http://www.independent.co.uk
Simon Calder
..... had the reassurance that he would receive board and lodging
until the next Bmibaby flight to East Midlands, three days later....
Full Story
http://www.independent.co.uk/travel/news-and-advice/simon-calder-offs...
I don't think that fobbing people off and hoping that they will go away is
"bending the rules", it is usually called "trying it on" (and businesses in
every category do it, IME).

tim
Joe Curry
2011-01-31 13:05:50 UTC
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On Sun, 30 Jan 2011 12:57:15 -0000, "tim...."
Post by tim....
Post by Joe Curry
..... had the reassurance that he would receive board and lodging
until the next Bmibaby flight to East Midlands, three days later....
I don't think that fobbing people off and hoping that they will go away is
"bending the rules", it is usually called "trying it on" (and businesses in
every category do it, IME).
Would a respected business openly condone 'trying it on'?
Graeme Wall
2011-01-31 14:56:14 UTC
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Post by Joe Curry
On Sun, 30 Jan 2011 12:57:15 -0000, "tim...."
Post by tim....
Post by Joe Curry
..... had the reassurance that he would receive board and lodging
until the next Bmibaby flight to East Midlands, three days later....
I don't think that fobbing people off and hoping that they will go away is
"bending the rules", it is usually called "trying it on" (and businesses in
every category do it, IME).
Would a respected business openly condone 'trying it on'?
A respected business is not necessarily a respectable one.
--
Graeme Wall
This account not read, substitute trains for rail.
Railway Miscellany at <www.greywall.demon.co.uk/rail>
Photo galleries at <http://graeme-wall.fotopic.net>
Roland Perry
2011-01-31 15:47:19 UTC
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Post by Graeme Wall
Post by Joe Curry
Post by tim....
Post by Joe Curry
..... had the reassurance that he would receive board and lodging
until the next Bmibaby flight to East Midlands, three days later....
I don't think that fobbing people off and hoping that they will go away is
"bending the rules", it is usually called "trying it on" (and businesses in
every category do it, IME).
Would a respected business openly condone 'trying it on'?
A respected business is not necessarily a respectable one.
And there are different kinds of respect. It's possible to admire a
company which gets the highest return for its shareholders, for example.
--
Roland Perry
JohnT
2011-01-31 16:42:34 UTC
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Post by Roland Perry
Post by Graeme Wall
Post by Joe Curry
Post by tim....
Post by Joe Curry
..... had the reassurance that he would receive board and lodging
until the next Bmibaby flight to East Midlands, three days later....
I don't think that fobbing people off and hoping that they will go away is
"bending the rules", it is usually called "trying it on" (and businesses in
every category do it, IME).
Would a respected business openly condone 'trying it on'?
A respected business is not necessarily a respectable one.
And there are different kinds of respect. It's possible to admire a
company which gets the highest return for its shareholders, for example.
Such as Ryanair?
--
JohnT
Recliner
2011-01-31 16:42:16 UTC
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Post by Roland Perry
Post by Graeme Wall
Post by Joe Curry
Post by tim....
Post by Joe Curry
..... had the reassurance that he would receive board and lodging
until the next Bmibaby flight to East Midlands, three days
later....
I don't think that fobbing people off and hoping that they will go
away is "bending the rules", it is usually called "trying it on"
(and businesses in every category do it, IME).
Would a respected business openly condone 'trying it on'?
A respected business is not necessarily a respectable one.
And there are different kinds of respect. It's possible to admire a
company which gets the highest return for its shareholders, for example.
Ryanair being the perfect exemplar, of course.
Roland Perry
2011-01-31 17:01:46 UTC
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Post by Recliner
Post by Roland Perry
And there are different kinds of respect. It's possible to admire a
company which gets the highest return for its shareholders, for example.
Ryanair being the perfect exemplar, of course.
Ah yes, the airline everyone loves to hate, and yet mysteriously carries
the most passengers.
--
Roland Perry
William Black
2011-01-31 17:10:11 UTC
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Post by Roland Perry
Post by Recliner
Post by Roland Perry
And there are different kinds of respect. It's possible to admire a
company which gets the highest return for its shareholders, for example.
Ryanair being the perfect exemplar, of course.
Ah yes, the airline everyone loves to hate, and yet mysteriously carries
the most passengers.
In my case, once...

Never again...
--
William Black

"Any number under six"

The answer given by Englishman Richard Peeke when asked by the Duke of
Medina Sidonia how many Spanish sword and buckler men he could beat
single handed with a quarterstaff.
Roland Perry
2011-01-31 17:39:10 UTC
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Post by William Black
Post by Roland Perry
Ah yes, the airline everyone loves to hate, and yet mysteriously carries
the most passengers.
In my case, once...
Never again...
I've flown them twice (the first time many years ago, before they were
famous) and the second time coming back from a holiday (so no great
pressure on getting back on time). I'd use them again if the price was
right and the mission was appropriate (ie probably not on a business
trip on a route with one plane a week).
--
Roland Perry
tim....
2011-01-31 18:52:13 UTC
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Post by Roland Perry
Post by William Black
Post by Roland Perry
Ah yes, the airline everyone loves to hate, and yet mysteriously carries
the most passengers.
In my case, once...
Never again...
I've flown them twice (the first time many years ago, before they were
famous) and the second time coming back from a holiday (so no great
pressure on getting back on time). I'd use them again if the price was
right and the mission was appropriate (ie probably not on a business trip
on a route with one plane a week).
I used to use them quite frequently before they had this silly jump through
hoops boarding card nonsense, with no complaints.

I shan't be voluntarily using them again, the above seems too much faf for
the saving,.
Joe Curry
2011-02-01 10:46:04 UTC
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On Mon, 31 Jan 2011 14:56:14 +0000, Graeme Wall
Post by Graeme Wall
Post by Joe Curry
Would a respected business openly condone 'trying it on'?
A respected business is not necessarily a respectable one.
Smoke and mirrors.. :-)
Graeme Wall
2011-02-01 12:01:51 UTC
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Post by Joe Curry
On Mon, 31 Jan 2011 14:56:14 +0000, Graeme Wall
Post by Graeme Wall
Post by Joe Curry
Would a respected business openly condone 'trying it on'?
A respected business is not necessarily a respectable one.
Smoke and mirrors.. :-)
Yup.
--
Graeme Wall
This account not read, substitute trains for rail.
Railway Miscellany at <www.greywall.demon.co.uk/rail>
Photo galleries at <http://graeme-wall.fotopic.net>
Joe Curry
2011-02-02 11:08:57 UTC
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On Tue, 01 Feb 2011 12:01:51 +0000, Graeme Wall
Post by Joe Curry
Smoke and mirrors.. :-)
Yup.
Not a lot of people know that... ;-)

Roland Perry
2011-01-30 14:13:57 UTC
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Post by Joe Curry
..... had the reassurance that he would receive board and lodging
until the next Bmibaby flight to East Midlands, three days later....
Full Story
http://www.independent.co.uk/travel/news-and-advice/simon-calder-offside-are-the-airlines-bending-eu-travel-rules-2197342.html
£509 seems a bit steep for three days, but maybe all the cheaper hotels
were full.

I've also had problems with claims due to air traffic control strikes,
although in my case it was the insurance company wanting me to produce
documentary evidence tat there had in fact been a strike, and that it
was the strike which then caused the flight to be cancelled. I wonder if
BMIbaby [or other airlines come to that] have a scheme to provide such
evidence (to their stranded travellers).
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Roland Perry
William Black
2011-01-30 17:52:27 UTC
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Post by Joe Curry
Source: http://www.independent.co.uk
Simon Calder
..... had the reassurance that he would receive board and lodging
until the next Bmibaby flight to East Midlands, three days later....
Full Story
http://www.independent.co.uk/travel/news-and-advice/simon-calder-offside-are-the-airlines-bending-eu-travel-rules-2197342.html
Over five hundred quid for three nights!

He's trying it on...
--
William Black

"Any number under six"

The answer given by Englishman Richard Peeke when asked by the Duke of
Medina Sidonia how many Spanish sword and buckler men he could beat
single handed with a quarterstaff.
Roland Perry
2011-01-30 19:41:46 UTC
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Post by William Black
Over five hundred quid for three nights!
He's trying it on.
All the stories that get in the press seem to involve huge sums. Like a
family of four who spent about two grand in a week (during the ash
cloud).
--
Roland Perry
Graeme Wall
2011-01-30 22:24:08 UTC
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Post by Roland Perry
Post by William Black
Over five hundred quid for three nights!
He's trying it on.
All the stories that get in the press seem to involve huge sums. Like a
family of four who spent about two grand in a week (during the ash cloud).
Stranded passenger makes reasonable claim is hardly going to make the
front page is it?
--
Graeme Wall
This account not read, substitute trains for rail.
Railway Miscellany at <www.greywall.demon.co.uk/rail>
Photo galleries at <http://graeme-wall.fotopic.net>
William Black
2011-01-31 17:01:37 UTC
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Post by Graeme Wall
Post by Roland Perry
Post by William Black
Over five hundred quid for three nights!
He's trying it on.
All the stories that get in the press seem to involve huge sums. Like a
family of four who spent about two grand in a week (during the ash cloud).
Stranded passenger makes reasonable claim is hardly going to make the
front page is it?
More likely it's 'Stranded passenger gets reasonable claim paid without
a problem'
--
William Black

"Any number under six"

The answer given by Englishman Richard Peeke when asked by the Duke of
Medina Sidonia how many Spanish sword and buckler men he could beat
single handed with a quarterstaff.
Graeme Wall
2011-01-31 17:16:20 UTC
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Post by William Black
Post by Graeme Wall
Post by Roland Perry
Post by William Black
Over five hundred quid for three nights!
He's trying it on.
All the stories that get in the press seem to involve huge sums. Like a
family of four who spent about two grand in a week (during the ash cloud).
Stranded passenger makes reasonable claim is hardly going to make the
front page is it?
More likely it's 'Stranded passenger gets reasonable claim paid without
a problem'
Now that might make the front page :-)
--
Graeme Wall
This account not read, substitute trains for rail.
Railway Miscellany at <www.greywall.demon.co.uk/rail>
Photo galleries at <http://graeme-wall.fotopic.net>
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