When BA say "UK" they mean London?

of course they do.

75% of the population of the UK is within a three hour drive of LHR, what's
the problem?

tim

Roland Perry

2011-03-18 13:01:55 UTC

Post by tim....
75% of the population of the UK is within a three hour drive of LHR, what's
the problem?

Three hours at 8am? That'll be about as far north as Luton, then?

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ukoap@hotmail.com

2011-03-18 14:26:48 UTC

Post by tim....
75% of the population of the UK is within a three hour drive of LHR, what's
the problem?

The majority of inbounds and outbounds use public transport Tim?

Roland Perry

2011-03-18 14:55:52 UTC

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Post by ***@hotmail.com

Post by tim....
75% of the population of the UK is within a three hour drive of LHR, what's
the problem?

The majority of inbounds and outbounds use public transport Tim?

The most recent figure I've seen is about 40% by public transport, but I
presume that includes taxis.

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William Black

2011-03-18 17:42:44 UTC

Post by tim....
of course they do.
75% of the population of the UK is within a three hour drive of LHR, what's
the problem?

Parking...

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"Any number under six"

The answer given by Englishman Richard Peeke when asked by the Duke of
Medina Sidonia how many Spanish sword and buckler men he could beat
single handed with a quarterstaff.

tim....

2011-03-18 19:59:47 UTC

Post by tim....
of course they do.
75% of the population of the UK is within a three hour drive of LHR, what's
the problem?

Parking...

This release is aimed at business people.

When were they bothered by such trivia

tim

William Black

2011-03-19 08:31:49 UTC

Post by tim....
of course they do.
75% of the population of the UK is within a three hour drive of LHR, what's
the problem?

Parking...

This release is aimed at business people.
When were they bothered by such trivia

When they're self employed.

Like many business people in the UK are.

Every pound they spend on stuff is a pound less in their pocket when
they're not being busienss people.

pete

2011-03-19 09:53:55 UTC

Post by tim....
of course they do.
75% of the population of the UK is within a three hour drive of LHR, what's
the problem?

Parking...

This release is aimed at business people.
When were they bothered by such trivia

When they're self employed.
Like many business people in the UK are.
Every pound they spend on stuff is a pound less in their pocket when

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Post by William Black
they're not being busienss people.

Hells bells. If you can manage that legally, I'd like the name of
your accountant!

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William Black

2011-03-19 10:23:08 UTC

Post by tim....
of course they do.
75% of the population of the UK is within a three hour drive of LHR, what's
the problem?

Parking...

This release is aimed at business people.
When were they bothered by such trivia

When they're self employed.
Like many business people in the UK are.
Every pound they spend on stuff is a pound less in their pocket when

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Post by William Black
they're not being busienss people.

Hells bells. If you can manage that legally, I'd like the name of
your accountant!

Haven't you noticed that the self employed in the UK get huge tax breaks?

You know, things like their clothes, telephone bills, computers and
cars being fully deductible and being able to rent part of their home
back to themselves as office space.

You need to get out more and meet some sucessful people.

Graeme Wall

2011-03-19 11:07:06 UTC

Post by William Black
Haven't you noticed that the self employed in the UK get huge tax breaks?
You know, things like their clothes, telephone bills, computers and cars
being fully deductible and being able to rent part of their home back to
themselves as office space.

Hells bells. If you can manage that legally, I'd like the name of your
accountant!

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William Black

2011-03-19 11:13:38 UTC

Post by Graeme Wall

Hells bells. If you can manage that legally, I'd like the name of your
accountant!

Just find one.

Any one.

It's all perfectly legal.

pete

2011-03-19 18:57:01 UTC

Post by tim....
of course they do.
75% of the population of the UK is within a three hour drive of LHR, what's
the problem?

Parking...

This release is aimed at business people.
When were they bothered by such trivia

When they're self employed.
Like many business people in the UK are.
Every pound they spend on stuff is a pound less in their pocket when

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Post by William Black
they're not being busienss people.

Hells bells. If you can manage that legally, I'd like the name of
your accountant!

Haven't you noticed that the self employed in the UK get huge tax breaks?
You know, things like their clothes, telephone bills, computers and
cars being fully deductible and being able to rent part of their home
back to themselves as office space.

None of which is remotely "fully deductible" for the sort of people
who fly for their work (first hand knowledge)

Post by William Black
You need to get out more and meet some sucessful people.

You need to stay in more and read up on tax rules for the past 25 years

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William Black

2011-03-20 08:53:20 UTC

Post by tim....
of course they do.
75% of the population of the UK is within a three hour drive of LHR, what's
the problem?

Parking...

This release is aimed at business people.
When were they bothered by such trivia

When they're self employed.
Like many business people in the UK are.
Every pound they spend on stuff is a pound less in their pocket when

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Post by William Black
they're not being busienss people.

Hells bells. If you can manage that legally, I'd like the name of
your accountant!

Haven't you noticed that the self employed in the UK get huge tax breaks?
You know, things like their clothes, telephone bills, computers and
cars being fully deductible and being able to rent part of their home
back to themselves as office space.

None of which is remotely "fully deductible" for the sort of people
who fly for their work (first hand knowledge)

Then, if they're self employed, they need to speak to a competent
accountant.

I find management accountants are actually better at this sort of thing
that the traditional chartered accountant.

They live in the real world far more than the 'chartered' type who live
in a world of books...

tim....

2011-03-20 11:51:54 UTC

Post by tim....
of course they do.
75% of the population of the UK is within a three hour drive of
LHR,
what's
the problem?

Parking...

This release is aimed at business people.
When were they bothered by such trivia

When they're self employed.
Like many business people in the UK are.
Every pound they spend on stuff is a pound less in their pocket when

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Post by William Black
they're not being busienss people.

Hells bells. If you can manage that legally, I'd like the name of
your accountant!

Haven't you noticed that the self employed in the UK get huge tax breaks?
You know, things like their clothes, telephone bills, computers and
cars being fully deductible and being able to rent part of their home
back to themselves as office space.

None of which is remotely "fully deductible" for the sort of people
who fly for their work (first hand knowledge)

Then, if they're self employed, they need to speak to a competent
accountant.

Which still won't achieve what you suggested.

Clothes are not fully deductible unless they are necessary for safety
purposes and then they are claimable by "normal" taxpayers (if not provided
by the employer)

Cars are NEVER fully deductible because they ALWAYS result in a tax charge
against the user (the revenue have closed the previously available loop-hole
for vans).

And you cannot rent-back part of your house unless you want to pay CGT on
the proceeds of sale. All you can claim are additional running costs for
which the revenue has said they think a reasonable amount is 2 pounds per
week

tim

Roland Perry

2011-03-20 13:49:56 UTC

Post by tim....
And you cannot rent-back part of your house unless you want to pay CGT on
the proceeds of sale.

With house prices currently falling, could you write off any capital
*loss* against the company, I wonder?

--
Roland Perry

William Black

2011-03-20 16:35:54 UTC

Post by tim....
of course they do.
75% of the population of the UK is within a three hour drive of
LHR,
what's
the problem?

Parking...

This release is aimed at business people.
When were they bothered by such trivia

When they're self employed.
Like many business people in the UK are.
Every pound they spend on stuff is a pound less in their pocket when

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Post by William Black
they're not being busienss people.

Hells bells. If you can manage that legally, I'd like the name of
your accountant!

Haven't you noticed that the self employed in the UK get huge tax breaks?
You know, things like their clothes, telephone bills, computers and
cars being fully deductible and being able to rent part of their home
back to themselves as office space.

None of which is remotely "fully deductible" for the sort of people
who fly for their work (first hand knowledge)

Then, if they're self employed, they need to speak to a competent
accountant.

Oh no they're not.

Try doing a normal job and claiming for a suit from your PAYE.

They'll just laugh at you.

Roland Perry

2011-03-20 16:56:31 UTC

Post by tim....
Clothes are not fully deductible unless they are necessary for safety
purposes and then they are claimable by "normal" taxpayers (if not provided
by the employer)

Oh no they're not.
Try doing a normal job and claiming for a suit from your PAYE.
They'll just laugh at you.

A suit isn't "safety equipment", and won't be claimable by anyone.

--
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William Black

2011-03-20 17:26:42 UTC

Post by tim....
Clothes are not fully deductible unless they are necessary for safety
purposes and then they are claimable by "normal" taxpayers (if not provided
by the employer)

Oh no they're not.
Try doing a normal job and claiming for a suit from your PAYE.
They'll just laugh at you.

A suit isn't "safety equipment", and won't be claimable by anyone.

Now try it of you're a self-employed shop keeper.

"No problem at all sir."

Roland Perry

2011-03-20 17:30:09 UTC

Post by Roland Perry
A suit isn't "safety equipment", and won't be claimable by anyone.

Now try it of you're a self-employed shop keeper.
"No problem at all sir."

That's a fantasy I'm afraid.

--
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William Black

2011-03-20 17:57:56 UTC

Post by Roland Perry
A suit isn't "safety equipment", and won't be claimable by anyone.

Now try it of you're a self-employed shop keeper.
"No problem at all sir."

That's a fantasy I'm afraid.

Works for me.

Change your accountant.

tim....

2011-03-20 22:13:40 UTC

Post by Roland Perry
A suit isn't "safety equipment", and won't be claimable by anyone.

Now try it of you're a self-employed shop keeper.
"No problem at all sir."

That's a fantasy I'm afraid.

Works for me.
Change your accountant.

Then you have got lucky in not being audited.

Case law on the issues says that clothes that could be worn outside of the
work environment aren't claimable, and the person who lost that case was
self employed

tim

William Black

2011-03-21 17:50:37 UTC

Post by Roland Perry
A suit isn't "safety equipment", and won't be claimable by anyone.

Now try it of you're a self-employed shop keeper.
"No problem at all sir."

That's a fantasy I'm afraid.

Works for me.
Change your accountant.

Then you have got lucky in not being audited.

They don't audit small businesses that turn over under £100,000 a year.

It isn't worth it.

tim....

2011-03-20 22:21:15 UTC

Post by Roland Perry
A suit isn't "safety equipment", and won't be claimable by anyone.

Now try it of you're a self-employed shop keeper.
"No problem at all sir."

That's a fantasy I'm afraid.

Works for me.
Change your accountant.

No it's you who has the accountant who doesn't know their job.

I've looked it up for him (or her)

see:

Mallalieu v Drummond (1983)

Seems it went all the way to HoL before the revenue won!

tim

Graeme Wall

2011-03-20 18:14:11 UTC

Post by tim....
Clothes are not fully deductible unless they are necessary for safety
purposes and then they are claimable by "normal" taxpayers (if not provided
by the employer)

Oh no they're not.
Try doing a normal job and claiming for a suit from your PAYE.
They'll just laugh at you.

A suit isn't "safety equipment", and won't be claimable by anyone.

Now try it of you're a self-employed shop keeper.
"No problem at all sir."

I take you aren't a self employed shopkeeper.

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William Black

2011-03-21 17:51:27 UTC

Post by Graeme Wall

Post by tim....
Clothes are not fully deductible unless they are necessary for safety
purposes and then they are claimable by "normal" taxpayers (if not provided
by the employer)

Oh no they're not.
Try doing a normal job and claiming for a suit from your PAYE.
They'll just laugh at you.

A suit isn't "safety equipment", and won't be claimable by anyone.

Now try it of you're a self-employed shop keeper.
"No problem at all sir."

I take you aren't a self employed shopkeeper.

I was.

Not any more.

I made enough money to retire at 50.

Graeme Wall

2011-03-20 18:13:30 UTC

Post by tim....
Clothes are not fully deductible unless they are necessary for safety
purposes and then they are claimable by "normal" taxpayers (if not provided
by the employer)

Oh no they're not.
Try doing a normal job and claiming for a suit from your PAYE.
They'll just laugh at you.

A suit isn't "safety equipment", and won't be claimable by anyone.

It is claimable if you happen to be Director-General of the BBC!

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This account not read, substitute trains for rail.
Railway Miscellany at <www.greywall.demon.co.uk/rail>

tim....

2011-03-19 13:17:59 UTC

Post by tim....
of course they do.
75% of the population of the UK is within a three hour drive of LHR, what's
the problem?

Parking...

This release is aimed at business people.
When were they bothered by such trivia

When they're self employed.
Like many business people in the UK are.
Every pound they spend on stuff is a pound less in their pocket when
they're not being busienss people.

So, you've just paid 2 grand for a fully flex fare across the pond, and
you're worried about 150 quid for car parking?

tim

Roland Perry

2011-03-19 13:51:35 UTC

Post by tim....
So, you've just paid 2 grand for a fully flex fare across the pond, and
you're worried about 150 quid for car parking?

That's an argument I've heard a few times, with the £150 being a taxi
fare as well. I prefer to regard all of the client/employer's money as
more sacred than that; there will generally be other people working out
of the travel budget pool to whom the availability of £150 is the
difference being doing their less ambitious trip and not doing it at
all.

--
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tim....

2011-03-19 15:35:40 UTC

Post by tim....
So, you've just paid 2 grand for a fully flex fare across the pond, and
you're worried about 150 quid for car parking?

That's an argument I've heard a few times, with the £150 being a taxi fare
as well. I prefer to regard all of the client/employer's money as more
sacred than that; there will generally be other people working out of the
travel budget pool to whom the availability of £150 is the difference
being doing their less ambitious trip and not doing it at all.

IME Roland you are in a very small minority in thinking this way.

Most people who travel a lot milk the expenses system for whatever they can
get in terms of travel convenience.

tim

William Black

2011-03-19 16:35:02 UTC

Post by tim....
Most people who travel a lot milk the expenses system for whatever they can
get in terms of travel convenience.

Only if they're not paying their own bills.

People who make their own money are more careful with it.

If you're treated as 'the help' then you milk the system.

tim....

2011-03-19 17:56:15 UTC

Post by tim....
Most people who travel a lot milk the expenses system for whatever they can
get in terms of travel convenience.

Only if they're not paying their own bills.
People who make their own money are more careful with it.
If you're treated as 'the help' then you milk the system.

I agree.

It is my contention that most business travellers are in the latter category

William Black

2011-03-19 18:19:00 UTC

Post by tim....
Most people who travel a lot milk the expenses system for whatever they can
get in terms of travel convenience.

Only if they're not paying their own bills.
People who make their own money are more careful with it.
If you're treated as 'the help' then you milk the system.

I agree.
It is my contention that most business travellers are in the latter category

OK.

Any proof?

tim....

2011-03-20 11:46:32 UTC

Post by tim....
Most people who travel a lot milk the expenses system for whatever they can
get in terms of travel convenience.

Only if they're not paying their own bills.
People who make their own money are more careful with it.
If you're treated as 'the help' then you milk the system.

I agree.
It is my contention that most business travellers are in the latter category

OK.
Any proof?

Nope, just observation.

A large (European) engineering company like the one that I used to work for
had several thousand people that used to "jolly" their way around the world
at company expense.

Friends at other companies report the same thing so multiply that up by
another 20-30 large companies and you have 100,000 people doing it. Add in
all the medium sized companies and you are going to be at perhaps 250K
employees. Then there's all the companies at the other end doing the same
thing, so that's 500K.

Even if that finger in the air estimate is 50% out, I very much doubt that
there are 250,000 small one man bands regularly doing transatlantic trips,
BICBW.

tim

pete

2011-03-20 12:41:47 UTC

Post by tim....
Most people who travel a lot milk the expenses system for whatever they can
get in terms of travel convenience.

Only if they're not paying their own bills.
People who make their own money are more careful with it.
If you're treated as 'the help' then you milk the system.

I agree.
It is my contention that most business travellers are in the latter category

OK.
Any proof?

Nope, just observation.
A large (European) engineering company like the one that I used to work for
had several thousand people that used to "jolly" their way around the world
at company expense.

It's not all it's cracked up to be. Most business trips have 3 elements:
the airport, the hotel, the clients' premises - that's it. Occasionally
you may find yourself in a tourist spot (as opposed to an industrial
estate) which may give you an evening to look around - after all the
attractions have closed for the day - assuming you're not too knackered.

Most times you find yourself holed up in an economy hotel with nothing
but a TV showing "Friends" dubbed into the local lingo and a restaurant
that serves burgers, pizza and chicken in various sauces; with chips/rice.

IMWBHE (Wide but Humble) the only people who are envious of business
travellers are those who never do it. The first few times are a novelty
and the feeling that it's a recognition of some special skill you have is
nice, but that quickly wanes and it turns into a chore.

Post by tim....
Friends at other companies report the same thing so multiply that up by
another 20-30 large companies and you have 100,000 people doing it. Add in
all the medium sized companies and you are going to be at perhaps 250K
employees. Then there's all the companies at the other end doing the same
thing, so that's 500K.
Even if that finger in the air estimate is 50% out, I very much doubt that
there are 250,000 small one man bands regularly doing transatlantic trips,
BICBW.
tim

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tim....

2011-03-20 13:01:46 UTC

Post by tim....
Most people who travel a lot milk the expenses system for whatever
they
can
get in terms of travel convenience.

Only if they're not paying their own bills.
People who make their own money are more careful with it.
If you're treated as 'the help' then you milk the system.

I agree.
It is my contention that most business travellers are in the latter category

OK.
Any proof?

Nope, just observation.
A large (European) engineering company like the one that I used to work for
had several thousand people that used to "jolly" their way around the world
at company expense.

It's not all it's cracked up to be.

I know (or so I was told). That's why most don't give an arse about saving
the company money but go for whatever it is that matches their convenience

tim

Roland Perry

2011-03-20 13:47:26 UTC

Occasionally you may find yourself in a tourist spot (as opposed to an
industrial estate) which may give you an evening to look around - after
all the attractions have closed for the day - assuming you're not too
knackered.

I remember doing a trip to Motorola in Austin, Texas, in 1998 which was
notable for the first hotel I had seen with Internet connectivity in the
room[1] and the first time I failed to find any shops of any description
within reasonable walking distance of the hotel in the business
district.

When I'd been at the other end of Austin (seeing Dell, both the man and
his company) a couple of years before, at least there was a small mall
if you were brave enough to cross the pedestrian-hostile highway.

[1] Although they charged by calendar days, which was a swiz.

--
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William Black

2011-03-20 16:34:36 UTC

Occasionally you may find yourself in a tourist spot (as opposed to an
industrial estate) which may give you an evening to look around -
after all the attractions have closed for the day - assuming you're
not too knackered.

I remember doing a trip to Motorola in Austin, Texas, in 1998 which was
notable for the first hotel I had seen with Internet connectivity in the
room[1] and the first time I failed to find any shops of any description
within reasonable walking distance of the hotel in the business district.
When I'd been at the other end of Austin (seeing Dell, both the man and
his company) a couple of years before, at least there was a small mall
if you were brave enough to cross the pedestrian-hostile highway.
[1] Although they charged by calendar days, which was a swiz.

Shopping in Texas really is odd if you're British.

The idea that shops in a huge open retail park aren't connected by
footpaths and that there's no landscaping between them, just rubble,
takes some getting used to.

William Black

2011-03-19 16:33:43 UTC

Post by tim....
of course they do.
75% of the population of the UK is within a three hour drive of LHR, what's
the problem?

Parking...

This release is aimed at business people.
When were they bothered by such trivia

When they're self employed.
Like many business people in the UK are.
Every pound they spend on stuff is a pound less in their pocket when
they're not being busienss people.

So, you've just paid 2 grand for a fully flex fare across the pond, and
you're worried about 150 quid for car parking?

Who ever pays full price from their own pocket for airfare?

My experience is that people spending their own money tend to be careful
with it.

Roland Perry

2011-03-19 17:23:12 UTC

Post by William Black
Who ever pays full price from their own pocket for airfare?

I do, whenever I'm on vacation; and when it's me-the-self-employed going
somewhere that's not covered by an existing client.

And if I'm travelling for a client/employer I make pretty much the same
decisions as if it was my own money. I have no interest in boosting the
profits of airlines and hotels which assume they have a captive
audience.

--
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William Black

2011-03-19 17:49:53 UTC

Post by William Black
Who ever pays full price from their own pocket for airfare?

I do, whenever I'm on vacation; and when it's me-the-self-employed going
somewhere that's not covered by an existing client.

I suggest you find the URL of a discount supplier of air tickets.

Roland Perry

2011-03-19 18:07:13 UTC

Post by William Black
Who ever pays full price from their own pocket for airfare?

I do, whenever I'm on vacation; and when it's me-the-self-employed going
somewhere that's not covered by an existing client.

I suggest you find the URL of a discount supplier of air tickets.

Slightly at cross purposes here. I pay all of the discounted price [for
my airfares], no-one else pays the other part.

--
Roland Perry

tim....

2011-03-19 17:55:13 UTC

Post by tim....
of course they do.
75% of the population of the UK is within a three hour drive of LHR, what's
the problem?

Parking...

This release is aimed at business people.
When were they bothered by such trivia

When they're self employed.
Like many business people in the UK are.
Every pound they spend on stuff is a pound less in their pocket when
they're not being busienss people.

So, you've just paid 2 grand for a fully flex fare across the pond, and
you're worried about 150 quid for car parking?

Who ever pays full price from their own pocket for airfare?
My experience is that people spending their own money tend to be careful
with it.

Yep, but IMHO people spending their own money will take the departure time
that is available at the price attractive to them.

They are not the slightest bit interested in "one flight every hour" instead
of "three flights within 10 minutes and the next one in three hours".

Therefore, they are not the target market for this press release and I think
that I am entitled to exclude them when constructing my comments upon said
press release

tim

Graham Harrison

2011-03-19 22:01:30 UTC

Post by tim....
Yep, but IMHO people spending their own money will take the departure time
that is available at the price attractive to them.
They are not the slightest bit interested in "one flight every hour"
instead of "three flights within 10 minutes and the next one in three
hours".
Therefore, they are not the target market for this press release and I
think that I am entitled to exclude them when constructing my comments
upon said press release
tim

I think you're probably right for most people but not all of us. My travel
planning is based on a number of factors of which price is but one. I
dislike, for instance, arriving somewhere when my body clock tells me it is
after midnight, particularly if I have an onward journey and I have to work
the next day. I am also disinclined to take connecting flights if I can
get a non stop. I have also found employers (well one in particular) to be
inflexible in their thinking. I had to make a trip from London for a 3hour
meeting in Europe. Quite doable in a day (2 hours flying time each way)
but very tiring. I worked out that if I went the night before (after work,
so in my own time), spent a night, worked in the local office in the morning
(quite feasible since I was known to work from home on occasions), attended
the meeting, spent a 2nd night and then flew home next day (that flight was
on company time but I was able to work before taking the flight and after)
the total cost including meal allowances and airport parking was about £50
less than a day trip and much more relaxed for me (duty of care don't you
know!). I was allowed the 2 night trip but only after a lot of pondering
and head shaking. And on one occasion when I discovered that coming home
in business was actually cheaper than economy (!) that caused real
consternation. My attitude was and is that I need to balance the rules set
by my employer with economy and my well being. When travelling on my own
money well being tends to float to the top of the pile.

William Black

2011-03-20 08:55:08 UTC

On 03/20/2011 03:31 AM, Graham Harrison wrote:
I have also found employers

(well one in particular) to be inflexible in their thinking. I had to
make a trip from London for a 3hour meeting in Europe. Quite doable in a
day (2 hours flying time each way) but very tiring.

I doubt it is now.

International flights within Europe have a 2 hour minimum check-in time
requirement.

Roland Perry

2011-03-20 09:44:19 UTC

(well one in particular) to be inflexible in their thinking. I had to
make a trip from London for a 3hour meeting in Europe. Quite doable in a
day (2 hours flying time each way) but very tiring.

I doubt it is now.
International flights within Europe have a 2 hour minimum check-in time
requirement.

Easyjet: "Check-in desks close exactly 40 minutes prior to the scheduled
departure time. of the flight"

And so on.

--
Roland Perry

William Black

2011-03-20 16:37:17 UTC

(well one in particular) to be inflexible in their thinking. I had to
make a trip from London for a 3hour meeting in Europe. Quite doable in a
day (2 hours flying time each way) but very tiring.

I doubt it is now.
International flights within Europe have a 2 hour minimum check-in
time requirement.

Easyjet: "Check-in desks close exactly 40 minutes prior to the scheduled
departure time. of the flight"

Try turning up an hour before flight time and see what happens.

Roland Perry

2011-03-20 16:57:13 UTC

Post by William Black
International flights within Europe have a 2 hour minimum check-in
time requirement.

Easyjet: "Check-in desks close exactly 40 minutes prior to the scheduled
departure time. of the flight"

Try turning up an hour before flight time and see what happens.

I check in and get on board. What were you expecting to happen?

--
Roland Perry

William Black

2011-03-20 17:25:44 UTC

Post by William Black
International flights within Europe have a 2 hour minimum check-in
time requirement.

Easyjet: "Check-in desks close exactly 40 minutes prior to the scheduled
departure time. of the flight"

Try turning up an hour before flight time and see what happens.

I check in and get on board. What were you expecting to happen?

If you're at Heathrow then by the time you've cleared security the gate
will have closed.

Roland Perry

2011-03-20 17:29:43 UTC

Post by William Black
International flights within Europe have a 2 hour minimum check-in
time requirement.

Easyjet: "Check-in desks close exactly 40 minutes prior to the scheduled
departure time. of the flight"

Try turning up an hour before flight time and see what happens.

I check in and get on board. What were you expecting to happen?

If you're at Heathrow then by the time you've cleared security the gate
will have closed.

(a) That's not a check in issue
(b) Easyjet don't fly from Heathrow (but they do fly form Gatwick, with
the 40 minute checkin time)

--
Roland Perry

William Black

2011-03-20 17:58:58 UTC

Post by William Black
International flights within Europe have a 2 hour minimum check-in
time requirement.

Easyjet: "Check-in desks close exactly 40 minutes prior to the scheduled
departure time. of the flight"

Try turning up an hour before flight time and see what happens.

I check in and get on board. What were you expecting to happen?

If you're at Heathrow then by the time you've cleared security the
gate will have closed.

(a) That's not a check in issue

Wanna bet?

Post by Roland Perry
(b) Easyjet don't fly from Heathrow (but they do fly form Gatwick, with
the 40 minute checkin time)

And how long does it take to trek out to Gatwick?

Roland Perry

2011-03-20 18:21:15 UTC

Post by Roland Perry
I check in and get on board. What were you expecting to happen?

If you're at Heathrow then by the time you've cleared security the
gate will have closed.

(a) That's not a check in issue

Wanna bet?

Sure. You correctly identified it as a security screening issue.

Post by Roland Perry
(b) Easyjet don't fly from Heathrow (but they do fly form Gatwick, with
the 40 minute checkin time)

And how long does it take to trek out to Gatwick?

Depends where you are starting from. At Kings Cross it's pretty much a
tie with Heathrow.

Meanwhile, there are international flights from rather more airports (in
UK and on the continent).

--
Roland Perry

Graeme Wall

2011-03-20 18:16:58 UTC

(well one in particular) to be inflexible in their thinking. I had to
make a trip from London for a 3hour meeting in Europe. Quite doable in a
day (2 hours flying time each way) but very tiring.

I doubt it is now.
International flights within Europe have a 2 hour minimum check-in
time requirement.

Easyjet: "Check-in desks close exactly 40 minutes prior to the scheduled
departure time. of the flight"

Try turning up an hour before flight time and see what happens.

You don't have time to have a meal after checking in.

--
Graeme Wall
This account not read, substitute trains for rail.
Railway Miscellany at <www.greywall.demon.co.uk/rail>

William Black

2011-03-21 17:49:41 UTC

Post by Graeme Wall

(well one in particular) to be inflexible in their thinking. I had to
make a trip from London for a 3hour meeting in Europe. Quite doable in a
day (2 hours flying time each way) but very tiring.

I doubt it is now.
International flights within Europe have a 2 hour minimum check-in
time requirement.

Easyjet: "Check-in desks close exactly 40 minutes prior to the scheduled
departure time. of the flight"

Try turning up an hour before flight time and see what happens.

You don't have time to have a meal after checking in.

Or to get through security...

JohnT

2011-03-20 10:06:18 UTC

Post by Graham Harrison
I have also found employers

(well one in particular) to be inflexible in their thinking. I had to
make a trip from London for a 3hour meeting in Europe. Quite doable in a
day (2 hours flying time each way) but very tiring.

I doubt it is now.
International flights within Europe have a 2 hour minimum check-in time
requirement.

Total nonsense.

--
JohnT

tim....

2011-03-20 11:55:32 UTC

Post by Graham Harrison

I think you're probably right for most people but not all of us.

There's bound to be a few outside

Post by Graham Harrison
My travel planning is based on a number of factors of which price is but
one. I dislike, for instance, arriving somewhere when my body clock
tells me it is after midnight, particularly if I have an onward journey
and I have to work the next day.

Agreed, but this still doesn't need one flight per hour on the hour. It
just needs a choice of morning/midday/afternoon/evening.

Post by Graham Harrison
I am also disinclined to take connecting flights if I can get a non stop.
I have also found employers (well one in particular) to be inflexible in
their thinking.

If you have an employer dictating the time of travel you are not "paying
your own fare" so this isn't relevant to the discussion

tim

Graham Harrison

2011-03-20 14:44:43 UTC