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Pilot's arm comes loose in landing
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Recliner
2014-08-14 00:01:21 UTC
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I'm surprised that a one-armed pilot could lass his commercial pilot's
medical.
Graeme Wall
2014-08-14 07:01:41 UTC
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I'm surprised that a one-armed pilot could lass his commercial pilot's
medical.
Bader flew combat missions in Spitfires with no legs.
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Graeme Wall
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Recliner
2014-08-14 07:43:03 UTC
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I'm surprised that a one-armed pilot could lass his commercial pilot's
medical.
Bader flew combat missions in Spitfires with no legs.
But not with paying passengers in board.
Graeme Wall
2014-08-14 08:05:19 UTC
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I'm surprised that a one-armed pilot could lass his commercial pilot's
medical.
Bader flew combat missions in Spitfires with no legs.
But not with paying passengers in board.
Post-war he flew a company plane.
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Graeme Wall
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Recliner
2014-08-14 08:20:38 UTC
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I'm surprised that a one-armed pilot could lass his commercial pilot's
medical.
Bader flew combat missions in Spitfires with no legs.
But not with paying passengers in board.
Post-war he flew a company plane.
Ah, I didn't know that. I'm still surprised that a commercial airline has a
one-armed captain, and that they don't even have a rehearsed drill for
dealing with situations like this one.
Graeme Wall
2014-08-14 11:18:28 UTC
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I'm surprised that a one-armed pilot could lass his commercial pilot's
medical.
Bader flew combat missions in Spitfires with no legs.
But not with paying passengers in board.
Post-war he flew a company plane.
Ah, I didn't know that.
IIRC he worked for Shell, so not exactly paying passengers in the
airline sense.
Post by Recliner
I'm still surprised that a commercial airline has a
one-armed captain, and that they don't even have a rehearsed drill for
dealing with situations like this one.
Pilot's arm dropping off at flare out is not the first hazard that
springs to mind. Does BA have a procedure in place for when the captain
drops dead of a heart attack just after take off?[1][2]

[1] Trident at Staines.

[2] Actually they do, now.
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Graeme Wall
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Recliner
2014-08-14 12:41:24 UTC
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I'm surprised that a one-armed pilot could lass his commercial pilot's
medical.
Bader flew combat missions in Spitfires with no legs.
But not with paying passengers in board.
Post-war he flew a company plane.
Ah, I didn't know that.
IIRC he worked for Shell, so not exactly paying passengers in the
airline sense.
It was a Flybe Dash 8 flight from Birmingham to Belfast, so I assume
the 47 passengers were normal members of the public. Where does Shell
come into it?
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Post by Recliner
I'm still surprised that a commercial airline has a
one-armed captain, and that they don't even have a rehearsed drill for
dealing with situations like this one.
Pilot's arm dropping off at flare out is not the first hazard that
springs to mind. Does BA have a procedure in place for when the captain
drops dead of a heart attack just after take off?[1][2]
[1] Trident at Staines.
[2] Actually they do, now.
I assume that pilot was not known to be at high risk of a heart
attack, or he'd have failed his medical. And, as you say, there are
established procedures if either pilot suffers a heart attack, etc.
But there seemed to be no procedure with Flybe when the captain's
artificial hand on the yoke came loose.
Graeme Wall
2014-08-14 14:55:20 UTC
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On Thu, 14 Aug 2014 12:18:28 +0100, Graeme Wall
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-28778728
I'm surprised that a one-armed pilot could lass his commercial pilot's
medical.
Bader flew combat missions in Spitfires with no legs.
But not with paying passengers in board.
Post-war he flew a company plane.
Ah, I didn't know that.
IIRC he worked for Shell, so not exactly paying passengers in the
airline sense.
It was a Flybe Dash 8 flight from Birmingham to Belfast, so I assume
the 47 passengers were normal members of the public. Where does Shell
come into it?
Douglas Bader I was talking about.
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I'm still surprised that a commercial airline has a
one-armed captain, and that they don't even have a rehearsed drill for
dealing with situations like this one.
Pilot's arm dropping off at flare out is not the first hazard that
springs to mind. Does BA have a procedure in place for when the captain
drops dead of a heart attack just after take off?[1][2]
[1] Trident at Staines.
[2] Actually they do, now.
I assume that pilot was not known to be at high risk of a heart
attack, or he'd have failed his medical. And, as you say, there are
established procedures if either pilot suffers a heart attack, etc.
Problem was the rest of the flight crew didn't appear to realise what
had happened until it was too late, if at all.
Post by Recliner
But there seemed to be no procedure with Flybe when the captain's
artificial hand on the yoke came loose.
Up till now probably not with any other airline either.
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Graeme Wall
This account not read, substitute trains for rail.
Railway Miscellany at <http://www.greywall.demon.co.uk/rail>
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